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Posted 10 March 2010, 4:50 PM
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Is this even possible?

Hello.

Past few days ive been reading, studying&testing to add those in ocPortal, but so far no luck of getting them to work.

( My friend is running this plugin for Joomla and it works like charm, but i don't like to switch using other CMS )



Has anyone ever tested those in ocPortal?

( here are quick links )

reCAPTCHA

Mailhide ( i got some level of success on this, but id like to use it on every members email )

BotScout



Is this ( even ) possible, or is my skill level too low for this kind of modification?

( i think im not skilled enough :) )
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Posted 10 March 2010, 5:26 PM
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ocStaff (admin)

Do you have a problem with spam? Since 4.3.1 ocPortal's CAPTCHA was significantly enhanced and as far as I'm aware bots aren't getting passed it.



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Posted 10 March 2010, 8:06 PM
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Yes, site was open few hours for testing and test galleries&guest book got huge amoun of those erm, pencil sharpening thingys..

I now deleted all files and copied fresh/untouched ocportal back.

Im not sure, but i think it might be some permission setting i accidentally messed up during this test, not sure.
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Posted 10 March 2010, 8:50 PM
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ocStaff (admin)

I'll check that out. Were the spam posts all by guests? Was it just in the guestbook? Did you turn off CAPTCHA? Can you confirm you were on 4.3.1?

w.r.t. integrating the tools you listed, it's basically programming.

We've considered ReCaptcha and came to the conclusion it's harder to fill in than ours, plus would be tricky to integrate due to a need for some database changes and some back/forth between servers, plus it would create a new dependency on external Internet resources.

Mailhide shouldn't be needed, the only email address that is exposed is the staff address (e.g. for RSS feeds to be proper/complete), but that is obfuscated where it's used.

I'd be wary of Botscout. It looks good, but I am a little concerned as now spam typically comes from botnets, so you'd be blocking ordinary users computers – I think that's not awful as chances are a random botnet member is not also a user of your site, plus it's kind of their fault for getting infected/not getting cleaned, but still I think it's kind of a last resort.



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Posted 10 March 2010, 9:50 PM
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Its me, Dragons Files (im at work and dont remember login details)
Yes, in guestbook. It was username "darwin something" some where differenet variables of those "sharpening" things and oddly named urls. Yes, CAPTCHA is enabled and im running latest version.
I started to think that user might be actual person spamming, not spam bot. Also some odd urls were posted in test gallery.
Also thats really good point on botscout. I havent thinked it in that way.
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Posted 11 March 2010, 5:31 PM
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Hi,

I'd forgotten that one of the aspects of our new CAPTCHA isn't enabled by default.
You can do this command in OcCLE to enable it:

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:set_value('css_captcha_only','1');



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Posted 11 March 2010, 10:26 PM
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Hi.
I thinked that it was enabled by default and now i feel stupid for nit checking it..
When im back home i execute that command. Thanks, it was valuable info, i sure notify my friends about it too.
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